Friday, 19 October 2012

I'd like to help you son, but you're too young to vote Eddie Cochran sang in Summertime Blues

I'm gonna take my problem to the United Nation
Well I called my congressman and he said quote
"I'd like to help you son, but you're too young to vote"
I'm very pleased that 16 and 17 year olds will be able to vote in the Scottish referendum in 2014. Most pleased because it might cause the same pressure in our own General Elections, tho I know this isn't automatic, given the Scottish and Welsh commiment to more proportional voting systems hasn't filtered down to UK Parliament. 

I am not the most enamoured with Alex Salmond, and I'm sure this is a political calculation on his part rather than the whole hearted support of the extension of suffrage that I believe in down to 16 year olds. The case has been put well by Liberal Youth Scotland, amongst other people.

But to add to that, I'd like to say that the younger the voting age goes, the better (clearly up to a point, and I think 16 is a good age. Yes, older people vote more, and that is to the detriment of younger people who are not participating in making decisions that will affect them far longer, assuming they live longer. But with an aging population, it's more important than ever that the younger generation vote, and that more of them are able to do so.

I support Votes at 16. 


  1. Old enough to vote, but not to buy cigarettes or alcohol? (Not that they take any notice). They don't realise if an Iron Curtain comes down bang go our RN contracts, our UK pensions, welfare support and NHS health benefits for our massive alcohol and drugs problems, currency, UK passports, recourse to embassies abroad, etc. When you're out of a union, you're out. No going back.
    Mr 'Call-me-Dave' Cameron doesn't care - Scotland's a Labour heartland, no Con MP base up here, and precious few Liberals, so no skin off the Cameron Conservative nose. And a huge saving in shekels, to spend on more 'English' (American) nuclear weaponry.
    Said nuclear weaponry's currently plonked in Scotland. That's to go, for starters. Exit Americans and American bases (I'm not going into the moral rights or wrongs, it's just that they contribute a lot to the local economies in the areas they're in).
    Alex Salmond's on a personal crusade. Failing any other talents he wants to go down in the history books as the "great" man who 'saved' Scotland from the 'hated' English.
    The current vanity project is a new road bridge over the Forth estuary. Where's the money for this coming from ... ?
    Five point something million pop. is too small for a full scale country (let alone how many of us are actually in work and contributing). It’s about what British Columbia would have if they seceded from Canada.
    It was money issues which brought about the Act of Union in the first place. The Scots wanted their own little piece of colonial footprint in S. America, like bigger nations, so they begged and borrowed to raise the expedition known as the Darien Project. It was appallingly ill-thought-out, most of them died of disease, but the bills still had to be paid. Scotland was in hock, so the English, underwriting the debts, offered what became the 1707 Act of Union. They jumped at it.
    'Nuff said.
    What would be the process if the referendum goes through? You can’t just get up one day and say we’re a sovereign state etc. There would be currency issues, balance of payment issues, issues and more issues. No, it's up to us, unless we want to be trapped behind the lines in the world’s newest third-world country, we must loudly and fervently oppose the insanity.~ JAS

  2. I don't think they'll win it to be honest.